Craigslist Meets WallStreet…Classic

What a classic answer…..

THIS APPEARED ON CRAIG’S LIST

What am I doing wrong?

Okay, I’m tired of beating around the bush. I’m a beautiful (spectacularly beautiful) 25 year old girl. I’m articulate and classy.
I’m not from New York . I’m looking to get married to a guy who makes at least half a million a year. I know how that sounds, but keep in mind that a million a year is middle class in New York City, so I don’t think I’m overreaching at all.

Are there any guys who make 500K or more on this board? Any wives? Could you send me some tips? I dated a business man who makes average around 200 – 250. But that’s where I seem to hit a roadblock. 250,000 won’t get me to central park west. I know a woman in my yoga class who was married to an investment banker and lives in Tribeca, and she’s not as pretty as I am, nor is she a great genius. So what is she doing right? How do I get to her level?

Here are my questions specifically:

– Where do you single rich men hang out? Give me specifics- bars, restaurants, gyms

-What are you looking for in a mate? Be honest guys, you won’t hurt my feelings

-Is there an age range I should be targeting (I’m 25)?

– Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the upper east side so plain? I’ve seen really ‘plain jane’ boring types who have nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys. I’ve seen drop dead gorgeous girls in singles bars in the east village. What’s the story there?

– Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows – lawyer, investment banker, doctor. How much do those guys really make? And where do they hang out? Where do the hedge fund guys hang out?

– How you decide marriage vs. just a girlfriend? I am looking for MARRIAGE ONLY

Please hold your insults – I’m putting myself out there in an honest way. Most beautiful women are superficial; at least I’m being up front about it. I wouldn’t be searching for these kind of guys if I wasn’t able to match them – in looks, culture, sophistication, and keeping a nice home and hearth.

it’s NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
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THE ANSWER
Dear Pers-431649184:

I read your posting with great interest and have thought meaningfully about your dilemma. I offer the following analysis of your predicament.
Firstly, I’m not wasting your time, I qualify as a guy who fits your bill; that is I make more than $500K per year. That said here’s how I see it.

Your offer, from the prospective of a guy like me, is plain and simple a crappy business deal. Here’s why. Cutting through all the B.S., what you suggest is a simple trade: you bring your looks to the party and I bring my money. Fine, simple. But here’s the rub, your looks will fade and my money will likely continue into perpetuity…in fact, it is very likely that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you won’t be getting any more beautiful!

So, in economic terms you are a depreciating asset and I am an earning asset. Not only are you a depreciating asset, your depreciation accelerates! Let me explain, you’re 25 now and will likely stay pretty hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year. Then the fade begins in earnest. By 35 stick a fork in you!

So in Wall Street terms, we would call you a trading position, not a buy and hold…hence the rub…marriage. It doesn’t make good business sense to “buy you” (which is what you’re asking) so I’d rather lease. In case you think I’m being cruel, I would say the following. If my money were to go away, so would you, so when your beauty fades I need an out. It’s as simple as that. So a deal that makes sense is dating, not marriage.

Separately, I was taught early in my career about efficient markets. So, I wonder why a girl as “articulate, classy and spectacularly beautiful”
as you has been unable to find your sugar daddy. I find it hard to believe that if you are as gorgeous as you say you are that the $500K hasn’t found you, if not only for a tryout.

By the way, you could always find a way to make your own money and then we wouldn’t need to have this difficult conversation.

With all that said, I must say you’re going about it the right way.
Classic “pump and dump.”
I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into some sort of lease, let me know.

232 comments

  1. Jeff says:

    She asked for an honest answer, and she sure got one. I hope you were thanked for your time, effort, and intelligence.

  2. Peter says:

    Actually, i do know who wrote this. The guy works for JP Morgan. My dad works in finance and sent this over to me over email. It had been circling around the wall st emails. The guy who wrote it actually listed his name, address and job. You’re going to have to take my words on faith, because i’m not going to be a dick to him and publish it without his permission.

  3. Peter says:

    Howard,
    Unless you are suing a pseudonym here or on the response to craigslist, you didn’t write the response. I know this for a fact.

  4. Ken says:

    I have been in relationships like the one the lady described before. And the gentleman that replayed was correct. When I changed carrier paths and the money slowed for a year, she was gone. Very few men with the intelligence to earn that salary would chose someone as shallow.

  5. The response to the 25 year old woman is exactly on target. Young men, print the article, fold it in your wallet and don’t get involved with a woman who just wants you for your income.

  6. bembot says:

    why is it that marriage is always equated with big bucks? I was married for 36 years and we were well off, we were poor, then again up financially but i loved my husband the same. we were raising and supporting 6 children and we were so down and out, but still we managed. What happened to true love? Why is it that people are scared of for better or for worse?

  7. Steve Brillig says:

    “I’ve seen really ‘plain jane’ boring types who have nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy…”
    That quote reveals both all we need to know about this woman, and the root of her problem and she is blind to it. Funny/sad.

  8. Peter II says:

    I have no need to print this out and put it in my wallet as I will never make more than $500k. I hope the right people are – that sounds like an awful lot of moola for a whole lot of hoopla.

  9. Simone says:

    By all accounts, a fantastic response, and girls like this, well, they need to be sterilized, as they do such a disservice to my gender and age bracket, but whomever did respond failed to address one of the girl’s more interesting (and I use the term “interesting” loosely) observations. Why do these seemingly ugly women get the rich guys she’s after? My thoughts, these other women aren’t altogether that unattractive, or, more likely, they have more to offer then surface value. My two cents to chicky, If a guy wanted to sit across the table from something pretty for the rest of his life, he’d buy some form of art work, you better have something interesting to say or an option to share. So maybe stop trolling Craigslist (!!!) for the man of your dreams, and take a class or pick up a book. Those beautiful, broke, single girls are in bars because they couldn’t keep their men entertained and interested, you can only get so far with “this one time in Cancun…” stories.

  10. Mark says:

    Maybe it never occurred to her that some of those women may be (at least part of) the reason that their husbands are doing so well. I know that I wouldn’t be nearly as successful as I am if my wife hadn’t been there supporting me and encouraging me throughout my career.

    Later
    Mark

  11. Pulchritudina says:

    Any woman who thinks she is “spectacularly beautiful” is problably not. This chick is delusional.

    And she can’t spell. It’s businessman.

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  13. holden caulfield says:

    At first the email reminded me of an unconvincingly photo-shopped image: it read as too disparate from a reality I am familiar with.

    Given my perspective as a poor student, living at home, attending university in a mediocre middle-class city in the middle of the continent, the Lady’s views are absolutely disconnected from any reality i am familiar with. And so my immediate reaction was that it wasn’t true – it was fabricated to encourage debate, or who knows what. However, during a recent trip to Orange County, I was (basically) shocked to encounter cases who are similar in objective to the author. For example, I was approached at a bar by a woman who, after a few moments of ‘small talk’ outright asked how much money I made. I guess she didn’t hear me when I explained that I was an unemployed student. In another example, I was sitting in a mall with my friend eating ice-cream. We were approached by two women who easily struck up a conversation with us. Eventually they made the observation that we ‘looked like computer engineer start-up types’ and that we must make a lot of money. One went so far as to ask what model of BMW I drove – without even confirming that I had a BMW (Let alone a car!).

    Personally this type of behaviour frightens me. This gluttonous, parasitic attitude is symptomatic of an unhealthy society.

  14. Joy says:

    This is a very nice read..^^..the girl who was asking for an honest reply got what she really deserved.

    I just hope she wake up to her senses sooner before she totally depreciate her value.

  15. Kim says:

    Has there been any replies from the woman herself? I wonder what she has to say about Mr. Campbell’s reply!

  16. Mouseclone says:

    I watched a movie once that was a chick flick and they referred to these types of women as “plastics”. I think that it was directed at superficial high school girls, but it still applies here. this woman is plastic and transparent.

    I love my wife, and I know that she love me. We have not only been married less than a year but we have lived together for 3 years before that. I was making decent money when I meet her, and I’m talking 40k not 250k, I lost my job and took one making about 28k. she stuck by me and helped take care of things. Soon I was back making a little less than what I was at my previous job, but I took a huge risk to do it.

    I walked off the job for the interview for the next. This got me fired. I didn’t have a job and wasn’t sure about the new one. She stuck by me all the way though it. We are better now and I’m making a little more than I was.

    Point is that behind ever great man there is even a greater woman. Supporting him in some fashion that is helping him to strive and be the best that he can be for her and himself.

    If this woman wants a 500k man, she should have to work for it. Find someone with hopes and dreams and help him to meet those goals. She shouldn’t find someone that has no drive or ambitions, this will lead to a dead end.

    Last she could sucker some college kid that could make that much soon and get him to marry her. None the less, this woman is extremely shallow and doesn’t deserve anything but the hood or a run down trailer park to live in.

  17. Hope says:

    She should at least have provided a picture. Maybe she is all that, but has just been unlucky in love. Right!

  18. Doc says:

    It vexes me that someone purported to be earning in excess of $500kpa can confuse “prospective” with “perspective”.

  19. Highrisegirl says:

    Unless you are looking to become a mother before you reach forty, back up
    a little, learn as much about life as you can, travel, read, listen, and “GET
    OLDER”! More often than not the first wife gets dumped, supportive, gorgeous, or plain and interesting. By the time a man is in his early sixties

  20. Highrisegirl says:

    whoops, sorry,

    and HOT, his kids are out of college,
    and you’ll know exactly what he’s worth and what you’ll get should you stay married when you sign the pre-nup!
    Subtract the Allimony payments and maybe even a Mother-In Law and you
    become at forty, THE TROPHY WIFE.
    Till then, work hard at all you do, finish what you start, keep yourself in excellent health, and enjoy every minute of being young, beautiful and single…

  21. Alex says:

    She’s offering love for sale. She is selling herself off as a trophy-a thing!
    The answer given is true wisdom dispensed for free.

  22. Lee says:

    Notice she never mentions the word “love”. The respondant is right; she talks like marriage is just a business transaction. And he paid her the compliment of replying in the same vein. Since falling in love isn’t a priority for her, she isn’t bringing enough to the table to seal the deal. Too bad. I bet marriage without love saps your soul.

  23. JellyBean says:

    As a plain jane type whom has snagged such a “great guy” (monetary wise), I must speak out.
    Why does my fiance stay with me? I am nothing but an average girl. Average face. Average smile. Average body. Average Average Average. Okay, maybe above average intelligence. Nonetheless, I am nothing special to look at. And according to this woman, I should have absolutely no reason to be with my fiance, who makes over a million a year.
    So why is he with me?
    We met in college. He only made 500K back then. We were partners in one of our mechanical engineering classes. He was a freshman, I a junior. He was cute, but I was dating the typical rough exterior, beautiful interior type guys.
    Over time, we started to like each other. I loved his car more than I loved him. We went camping. Movies. Kayaking. I tried to hook him up with other girls; he was too nice, too cute, too… too much for me.
    Then I went to law school. Met a nice lawyer and started dating him. He made good money too. The only thing we shared in common was our love of the law.
    But we remained friends, always hanging out. His mother hoped we would start dating, we laughed it off. He was still too much for me. I didn’t think I was pretty enough; I thought I was too fat, to ugly, to poor. Which, in retrospect, is quite funny, considering my family lives very happily in a very nice community in California.
    It wasn’t until my third year that we started dating. It really was random. We were drinking. He fessed up. Said he had liked me since he first met me.
    Two years have passed. He proposed 6 months after we started dating. I am the one who put the brakes on. Wanted to make sure we were really going to be happy.
    So what does he find so great about me?

    1- I don’t want his money and I can/do support myself.
    2- I make him laugh. The shit that comes out of my mouth makes a lot of people laugh, namely, my fiance.
    3- We have never had a fight. NEVER.
    4- I don’t stress him out.
    5- I have never asked for him to pay for a thing. Well actually that isn’t true; he does fund my charity habit.
    I’m sorry, I’ll admit it, I have a pension for going hog wild when it comes to charities! Some girls like purses or shoes, I like charities. He accepts this.
    6- Despite his friends and everyone else’s best efforts, I am the only girl to make him feel at ease.
    7- He knows that he can always come to me and annoy me with his stories of how angry he is and I won’t get mad or tell him to shut up. He likes knowing that I am the one person he can confide in.
    8- He doesn’t have to buy me expensive gifts. A book is cool. But even better, one time he gave me a light bulb and told me I light up his life.
    9- He loves the fact that I make him do so many different things, all of them adventures that he believes are life threatening.
    10- And finally, he loves that I am so different and as he puts it, “extraordinary.”

    And for that, I love my fiance. Even though he is rich and handsome and oh so perfect, I still love him for the man he is, not the money he has.

  24. Jack says:

    JellyBean wrote:
    “I have a pension for going hog wild when it comes to charities!”

    JellyBean, you say you have “above average intelligence” and went to law school yet you don’t know the difference between “pension” and “penchant”?

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  26. John W says:

    #21

    As someone who has lived in Newport Beach (The real oc..) almost my entire life, I would like to know which bar and ice cream shop you claim to have met such dumb-bells.

    Never in my life have I heard or seen such an entertaining show. The girls here work restaurants and bars like its their job (and to some, it is..), but never openly do they (ESPECIALLY ON MEETING) ask how much you make.

    Hasty generalizations aside, what do you think the women here are? Mentally ill? That would be red alert for anyone worth his weight in NB and thus a short career for the gold-digger.

    You should consider a career in creative writing. I’m sure you have reaffirmed many shallow-hal’s out there that newport beach is full of gold digging BMW driving pricks and prickettes. Not that I disagree, but still.. BMW is middle class in these parts, recall the madam was speaking of 500k a year. Thats Ferrari territory buddy.

    Finally, thanks for trying to keep our tourism down. We really would rather you stuck to Disneyland and off of our beaches.

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  28. southy says:

    Oscar Wilde’s dictum comes to mind “No affection of appearance conceals a common place mind.” To be loved you have to love. Not the stupid money but in what makes life important. The synthesis of thought and action into creativity. This is done in a thousand million different ways. The fact of the matter though is that you must be genuine. That what is of value is finding and acting on things that make life valuable. To create & develop your ideas, to have interests and in the same sense avoid pride / ego / arrogance of self. To believe in yourself doesn’t mean you are worth X dollars – it is that what you do is of value. At 25 I find you shallow. I look up to friends who do – not just for the sake of do-ing but because what they do has value i.e. is interesting, takes effort, is exciting, is caring, requires intellect or mind. You sound immensely like a consumer and those types take. The old adage of the more you give the more you get is fairly true. Where it isn’t (in the receiving stakes) doesn’t matter because you are too busy doing the great things. You keep the bucks, image, consumption: I’ll have a life.

  29. southy says:

    Moseclone wrote “behind every great man there is even a greater woman.”

    That may well be but I thought this holds greater veracity

    “Behind every great man is a surprised woman.”

  30. Daniel says:

    I’m skeptical this actually appeared on Craigslist, why is it not archived like many other postings?

    Also to Jellybean: Your current husband was making 500k a year while going to school? Engineering?

  31. JellyBean says:

    To Jack (#39): So I made a mistake. At least I will fess up to them.

    To Daniel (#45): He builds custom hot rods/cars/racecars. In college he only did custom hotrods and cars. Mind you, this is in California and his father owned the business to begin with, so clientel was already built up.

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  33. Greshan Swan says:

    I am deeply offended by that statement, reverter. I have never lied nor do I plan to ever lie. This may infact be a lie.

    Rich people get online too.

  34. Zir says:

    Well..if you’re after money that magical figure of $500K, Then why go for one man..how about three men of $150K leasing you…

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  36. The Reverter says:

    “matelot wrote:

    people who read & responde to this kind of Craigslist posts are just fucking morons”

    the irony

  37. carpediem212 says:

    i initially thought this was spam or some kind of chain letter. Then I did a google and there it was. This girl really needs some self reflecting and think it through.

    Hey JellyBean,

    Would love to check out your husband’s shop. I’m in school now for my BS in ME.

  38. John says:

    -To the girl..you need to read the “millionaire next door” and change your profiling techniques. Then figure out how you can either start a profitable business on your own or find someone willing to hope and dream along with you to find a shared success – it’s a team effort and not easy. And mind those expenses along the way – it’s what you keep that’s important.

    -To everyone else..the girl is just 25, and can’t help but be a little shallow (that’s what that end of the pool is for).

    -And for those damn spelling police..knock it off.

  39. rougy says:

    “I’m articulate and classy…I’m looking to get married to a guy who makes at least half a million a year.”

    You’re a big fat zero, because those two clauses cancel each other out.

    God help the schmuck who gets stuck with your fat ass.

  40. MSG says:

    Jellybean sounds like another self absorbed, look-at-me types you find too often in California. By the way, it’s who, and not whom; I would hope a lawyer would know the difference.

  41. Yeah says:

    I’d just like to add that no doubt she isn’t at all as interesting or intelligent as she tries to make out. Probably dull and stupid.

    Great answer, can I get an ‘oh snap’ in a hideous out of context fashion?

    I’d also like to point out that there are many ugly, stupid, 35 year old single women, who given the efficiency of markets, will no doubt never ever ever find someone to marry them.

    They form lobbys that try and change childrens textbooks to remove the concept of marriage. On the other side you have gay activists adding more marriage to text books, but adding two guys / gals. Look at the best word book ever pictures on flickr. In 2020 there will be straight, gay, and asexual (another tribe who wants to make an issue of their choices) bears and pigs on the cover

  42. littleB says:

    hahaha..just read this on craigslist NY:

    Okay, I’m tired of beating around the bush. I’m a rich (very rich) 30 year old man. I’m articulate and classy. I’m not from New York. I’m looking to get married to a girl who is stunningly beautiful. I know how that sounds, but keep in mind that merely attractive is just average in New York City, so I don’t think I’m overreaching at all.

    Are there any girls who are stunning or better on this board? Any sugar daddies? Could you send me some tips? I dated a couple of chicks who were pretty fit. But that’s where I seem to hit a roadblock. Pretty fit won’t get me envious glances on Madison Avenue. I know an investment banker at my racquetball club who was married to a lingerie model and lives in Tribeca, and he’s not as rich as I am, nor is he as sharp. So what is he doing right? How do I get to his level?

    Here are my questions specifically:

    – Where do you single stunning women hang out? Give me specifics- bars, restaurants, gyms

    -What are you looking for in a mate? Be honest girls, you won’t hurt my feelings

    -Is there an age range I should be targeting (I’m 30)?

    – Why are some of the men living with belting women on the upper east side so damn poor? I’ve seen really cheap types who have nothing to offer married to incredibly beautiful girls. I’ve seen drop these really rich guys with fat girls in restaurants. What’s the story there?

    – Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows – model, dancer, personal trainer. And where do they hang out? Where do the strippers hang out?

    – How you decide marriage vs. just a sugar daddy? I am looking for MARRIAGE ONLY

    Please hold your insults – I’m putting myself out there in an honest way. Most rich men are perverts; at least I’m being up front about it. I wouldn’t be searching for these kind of girls if I wasn’t able to match them – in purchasing power, culture, sophistication, and buying a nice home and hearth

  43. Locutus Borg says:

    Jellybean wrote:
    >We met in college. He only made 500K back >then.

    ONLY $500K?! And he made this much in college?! Would you have married him if he had all those same qualities but only made $20K? ;-)

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  45. IQ.genius says:

    I suspect a more accurate alias for Jellybean would be Walter Mitty. Amazing how such an intelligent soul doesn’t know the difference between “to” and “too”.

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  47. JW says:

    Nice work Rob!

    I wonder how many people are actually in these kinds of relationships and don’t even realize it, only to wake one day when they’re 50 and have to apologize to their children for spawning them by way of a vapid, delusional, bitch.

  48. JW says:

    Nice work Rob!

    I wonder how many people are actually in these kinds of relationships and don’t even realize it, only to wake one day when they’re 50 and have to apologize to their children for spawning them by way of a vapid, delusional, bitch?

  49. john says:

    LMAOOOOOOOOOO .. I was getting pissed off at the main post of the girl asking for a guy ..

    But after I read the response .. I just laughed my ass off .. This is fucking great .. oh my god … Somebody pay some money and publish it in a newspaper!! QUICK!!

  50. patrick says:

    Maybe some day she will mature enough to realize that what she has between her ears is more important to men than what she has between her legs.

  51. Lau says:

    Hey

    I’m from Denmark, and i read this stuf, to me the states seems like a wierder and weirder place the more i get in to it.

    But it’s cool that shee’s so up front about it. And by the way, how do you even make that kind of money?

  52. Lau says:

    Hey

    I’m from Denmark, and i read this stuf, to me the states seems like a wierder and weirder place the more i get in to it.

    But it’s cool that shee’s so up front about it. And by the way, how do you even make that kind of money?

    Later

  53. justagirlaround says:

    What Mr.Lindzon says is correct. hands down, it’s a solid analysis. However as a pretty girl in the big city ( in my youth, now I am indeed a plain jane ) I never liked the men who went on rants about gold diggers. Here’s a novel strategy for dealing with women who only want your wallet -don’t date them. I never dated rich guys as a young woman, because I thought they were sleazy and more inclined to do creepy things because they could get a lawyer to clean their names. The few rich guys I did run into never complained about “gold diggers” or the like. They seemd to have too much class to defame woman as a species. It was markedly older lower middle class guys defending their umpteen dollar muffler parts empire from “bitches”. In some cases it was toothless fellows from whatever slum, raging on about the shallow women who only wanted money. The pleas for economic quality wrapped in anger and cruelty often felt like disguised hatred for all women.

    am nonplussed by all this spelling and wording correction. Who out there believes that articulate or smart people don’t make spelling or grammar errors? If that were ( was?) the case then why do all the journals written by educated people also retain copy editors to look for these errors? Typos aren’t proof of anything.

  54. justagirl17 says:

    What Mr.Lindzon says is correct. hands down, it’s a solid analysis. However as a pretty girl in the big city ( in my youth, now I am indeed a plain jane ) I never liked the men who went on rants about gold diggers. Here’s a novel strategy for dealing with women who only want your wallet -don’t date them. I never dated rich guys as a young woman, because I thought they were sleazy and more inclined to do creepy things because they could get a lawyer to clean their names. The few rich guys I did run into never complained about “gold diggers” or the like. They seemd to have too much class to defame woman as a species. It was markedly older lower middle class guys defending their umpteen dollar muffler parts empire from “bitches”. In some cases it was toothless fellows from whatever slum, raging on about the shallow women who only wanted money. The pleas for economic quality wrapped in anger and cruelty often felt like disguised hatred for all women.

    am nonplussed by all this spelling and wording correction. Who out there believes that articulate or smart people don’t make spelling or grammar errors? If that were ( was?) the case then why do all the journals written by educated people also retain copy editors to look for these errors? Typos aren’t proof of anything.

  55. Peter Rasmussen says:

    #26
    “behind every man is an even greater woman”.

    a cliche, but I get you..

    the new cliche..
    ..in company of of a great men are great people, and the trash, but the great man helps them to show a way, he is not fooled by the trash.
    ..as for the women in our lives, they are not behind us, they are with us, together we are.

  56. Angeni says:

    LMAO!!! I love the BURNS! You wanted a honest answer sweetheart, you got it! Learn to punctuate and spell better before throwing yourself out there! (^_^) Guys want to carry an intelligent conversation ya know!

  57. fadingdaisy says:

    ‘Very few men with the intelligence to earn that salary would chose someone as shallow.’

    I wouldn’t be too sure.

    As to a beautiful woman, we all know looks fade. Hell, if I wanted true beauty consistently, I’d not consider marriage at all and simply (and somehow mangically) procure a new lady each month. I’m surprised she didn’t realise that all fades in time and that her asset isn’t all that much of one.

  58. a_poorly_designe says:

    ‘But it’s cool that shee’s so up front about it. And by the way, how do you even make that kind of money?’ … obviously written by someone whom isn’t an Investment Banker!

  59. Botox, baby! says:

    She’s not a depreciating asset. If her looks fade (along with her breasts etc), there’s always plastic surgery. Simply sorted. He’ll have to retire while she can keep pumping that botox into her buttocks and anywhere else her body won’t reject.

  60. Trader Mike says:

    This is the best sh!t I’ve read all year. “a depreciating asset… why would I buy you…” Classic!

    As a wise & rich man once said: “if it flies, floats or fornicates… lease it!” :-)

  61. web guy says:

    She most definitely is a deprecating asset. Beautiful young women who are looking to hook up with a rich guy are a dime a dozen.

    The value of a woman is what’s on the inside. Strength of character and commitment to the relationship.

    Suppose she marries her “ideal” guy, and the first year of their marriage, he gets fired and has to take a position for substantially less. How is she likely to view the situation? “I married you for richer or for poorer, so let’s work this out,” or “The money’s gone and I’m gone too.”

  62. Cynical Queer says:

    It’s women like this that make me glad I like guys instead. I hope this chick ends up flipping burgers at Mickey D’s when she’s 40, realizing she should have dated the man and not his checkbook.

  63. Noor says:

    @ Botox, baby!

    Oh come on! It’s not like any amount of plastic surgery is ever going to make a 50 year old look as good as a hot 25 year old, regardless of whether it’s a guy or a girl.

    Also, the spelling Nazis really need to relax. Grammar and spelling are fine and all, but no indicator of someone’s earning capacity or intelligence (unless it’s totally FUBAR).

    As for making 500k – investment banker, financial services, hedge fund manager, partner at and medium size plus law firm (or senior associate at a mega firm), doctor with a surgical specialty, oncologist, business owner. There are plenty of ways to make 500k a year.

  64. Rob says:

    She should shaq up with Donal Trump (or some equally old rich guy). She gets more $$$, and he dies before her looks fade.

  65. “As for making 500k – investment banker, financial services, hedge fund manager, partner at and medium size plus law firm (or senior associate at a mega firm), doctor with a surgical specialty, oncologist, business owner. There are plenty of ways to make 500k a year.”

    And yet, few people actually do make 500K a year. It’s possible, but it’s hard to accomplish. There are not very many brain surgeons or hedge-fund managers in America.

  66. Crisine says:

    i have no words but to say her post has brought down my IQ to levels i didn’t even know existed.

  67. Steveo says:

    And yet, few people actually do make 500K a year. It’s possible, but it’s hard to accomplish.

    Not really. I decided to dip a toe into real estate last year, despite having no assets, no capital, no backers, and no training. If I sold up today, I’d probably have around $500-600K left after taxes etc. Fortunately, it only needed a couple of hours work all up, so I didn’t need to quit my day job.

    If I can pull off the same schtick this year too – and the numbers say it’s likely – I might very well quit and let some other schmuck have my place in the workforce.

    PS – The vast majority of real estate advice out there? SUCKS. The real money’s in the metagame, and there are a lot better players than me – they’re the ones willing to put in more than one week’s work a year.

  68. Landon says:

    She needs to find a lottery winner—someone who just got lucky to have money. Anyone who makes 500+ a year is going to understand that her value is downtrending.

    Bearish on her life.

    Buying puts now.
    Strike price = “has-been with too much makeup and an obvious facelife”
    Expiration Date = age 40

  69. Greg says:

    That has to be one of the best crafted, honest and true responses I have read in a very long time. What’s more, it was entertaining to read!

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  71. Yikes! It seems she doesn’t know about the concept of buy low, sell high. It strikes me that a guy that makes $250k now (who she has no trouble meeting) will at some point in the future make $500k. I guess waiting through your twenties for gobs of wealth is too long for this misguided woman. And no lady, not all doctors rake in the dough, but they can heal broken human bodies, isn’t that enough?

  72. g says:

    Awesome post. Made my day.

    A small comment on marriage.

    Not very long ago, marriage was considered a business deal, in some countries it still is. A man’s family got a woman, someone who would bear children, take care of the household, clean, wash, cook, etc and a woman’s family got money, goats, land, etc.

    A better looking, healthier woman, from a wealthier family, got more “assets” paid for her. Its common sense.

    One problem with the reply is a comparison of girl’s looks to money. Girl’s looks are not the assets she’s selling. If she’s confused about that, someone smarter, shouldn’t make the same mistake. She’s offering herself in a role of a wife, not her looks.

    Good luck gorgeous! God’s speed.

  73. Jack says:

    Justagirlaround wrote:
    “Who out there believes that articulate or smart people don’t make spelling or grammar errors? If that were ( was?) the case then why do all the journals written by educated people also retain copy editors to look for these errors? Typos aren’t proof of anything.”

    JellyBean was not making a typographical error when she typed “pension” instead of “penchant”. She was displaying a limited vocabulary (i.e she did not know there was a word spelled “p-e-n-c-h-a-n-t”).

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  80. Tia says:

    So do men *really* want women they can relate to as their wives over trophy wives? interesting…
    Gives me hope anyway :P

  81. Donna says:

    My reply to #67 (see above):

    I read your posting with great interest and have thought about your dilemma. I offer the following analysis of your predicament.

    Let me begin by saying I’m not wasting your time, I qualify as a stunning beauty. That being said, here’s how I see it.

    Your offer, from the prospective of a woman like me, is plainly and simply a bad deal. Here’s why. What you suggest is a simple trade: you bring your money to the table and I bring my looks.

    But here’s the rub, your Madison Avenue money could very well disappear overnight and my desirability attracts thousands of men with means. Why should I stay stuck with one man? Just the thought of my glorious naked body forbidden to all those other powerful men is unbearable. In fact, it is quite likely that my desire will increase as I mature but it is not definite that you will get either more generous or more virile!
    So, the attractiveness and desirability ratio indicate that you are ramping down and I am on an incline. Not only are you ramping down, but life with you likely would be fatiguing due to your stressful occupation. You’re 30 now and will likely be fun for a few years, but eventually I’d be noticed by younger men with more than you. Then the fade begins in earnest. By the time you’re 40, I’m done!

    So as a strong, marketable franchise, I would call you a franchisee, not a partner It just doesn’t make sense to sell my options (which is what you’re asking) so I’d rather keep them.

    In case you think I’m being cruel, I would say the following. If my looks were to go away, so would you, so when your money is gone, I need an out. It’s as simple as that. Marriage makes no sense.

    Moreover, I was taught early in my life about real value. So, I wonder why a guy so “rich, articulate, and classy” has been unable to find a stunning beauty. I find it hard to believe that if you are as sharp and sophisticated as you say you are that the lingerie model hasn’t found you, if only to see what’s underneath.

    If only you could find a way to ensure your . . . ah . . . drive, we wouldn’t be having this difficult conversation.

    With all that said, I must say you’re going about it the right way.

    I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into a franchise, let me know. Other franchisees will tell you that my ingress and egress arrangements are quite satisfactory.

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  88. Mike says:

    Not another one. When will the 20 somethings (or even 30 and 40 somethings) learn. Guys want value not looks (at least the smart guys). Besides, ladys that are extremely good looking “ALWAYS” get hit on – what guy wants that happening? I don’t need a trophy – just someone to love me for me!

  89. Katfish says:

    omg, still laughing here…….if there was a definition of “owned” I’d say that was it……hilarious.

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    I’m not gunna say who I am, but I’m inheritting quite a bit of money, and you know what… Money isn’t everything. I don’t understand people whatsoever. Why would you want to live in New York where the cost of living is so high and you expect people in the middle class to make half a million a year, when you could easilly move elsewhere, make less money, have spend more quality time with loved ones?

  93. CLinton says:

    WOW. crazy what life and what women are reaching for these days. Some of the prettiest women on earth are visibly ugly to me once I hear anything about how much money you make and so forth. Love is where its at.

  94. PEANUTBUTTER says:

    Can we move our focus to the Wall St. guy for a second?

    I just got out of a ‘relationship’ with a one of these men who any gold digger would sign up to marry on the spot. Personally, I thought we had a connection.. or whatever. Things went great for a few months but as I pocketed a red flag here and another there… I decided to be a little bit stalker-ish and do a background search. Turns out Mr. BigShot already had his plain Jane. Unintentionally, I was the other lady. When I brought my suspicion to his attention- in a relatively nice way, he booked. Fair enough, not much to say to a jerk of that sort…

    To console me, a girl friend of mine who works down on Wall St. said it was disgusting how accepted it is for the men at her office to have girlfriends. You give these men all the power and money in the world, throw them in a city of beautiful women aged 25-30… No wonder marriage is the farthest thing from these men’s minds. And in order for me to find a guy that wants even a tid bit of committment, Ive gotta step it up to the almost 35 year age group…

    Bottom line I suppose, is this city is simply not conducive to the marrying type. The women want money and the men want to spread their seeds and smoke expensive cigars.

    -bitter a little bit ~

  95. Dan says:

    I would have to say that most men will make that kind of money with a strong women behind him, and supporting him rather then out shopping all day spending it. The lease idea is exactly what I was thinking.. Not a good return on your investment. For myself I am younger investment Broker and I found the best investment I could ever ask for. She supports me in the high and low times which I can not ask for more..She knows what will becoming in the future, and does not effect our relationship. These women looking for sugar daddies really have it all wrong..The money will alway be there and you won’t.

  96. HomerJay says:

    I think this flame-fest for the poor girl is a little unfair. She had the guts to say what is really the second question on most women’s mind when they meet a prospective mate: “What’s your name?” is usually number 1:) Who here would think it unusual for a man to say he is looking to find a mate amongst the “beautiful” crowd? Nobody. How many women here would prefer that the prospect they meet says he makes a million a year, and how many would prefer he says 25K?

  97. Jarret says:

    and you wonder where the term bitches hoes and tricks come from. not saying all women fall into these categories but the original poster is definately one. i dont think i want to make 500k anymore, maybe just 499k =)

  98. AshTre says:

    #11, I live in scottsdale, and there is a lot of truth to that… but there are maybe 1 or 2 people in the age range she is looking for that actually make 500k. We have a syndrome out here called 30k millionaires. Guys spending more money on their car leases than their apartments. spending their weekly salary at clubs to try to get a very shallow girl to go home with em. But then again, herd mentality.

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  100. Gorilla_At_Large says:

    Jesus Christ, I am so sure this is my ex-girlfriend. This is how she talked, this is her dry sense of humor — which is actually not a joke — to a tee.

    She thought I was going to be rich but it didn’t pan(handle) out. Not for her, anyway. When we broke up, under circumstances too horrific to be described, she went on Millionaires.com, some site like that.

    She is the dumbest woman on God’s green earth. I told her for four years, read a book, develop your mind, your brain is rotting. Towards the end she started to boast about being “shallow,” and said it was “better than being middle class.”
    I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. It was like a nightmare.

    I’ll give her credit, she doesn’t beat around the bush. She likes to be direct and arrogant, she thinks people will think she’s playing a character — but she’s not.

    It may not be the girl I’m thinking of, maybe there is just an epidemic of these bitches, or else this is another sign of the apocalypse. But it sure did make my spine tingle.

  101. Joe says:

    Just your average American whore! That’s why smart guys either don’t get married or get a really good prenupt!!!

  102. Leidra says:

    The posting from Craigslist is an example of how some women get caught up with the “show me the money” attitude that turns off most men. But…believe it or not some men will want to meet her. Her formula is her looks + your money= happiness. And that may work for some people but it won’t last long term.

    Obviously the poster wants a mate that offers security and reliability. A lot of women complain about loser boyfriends and husbands who do not take care of the necessities of life. She did not say she wanted a millionaire or billionaire, and I have seen dating ads where either one of those were required. From a financial point of view she is correct that $500,000 does not go far if you are living in NYC. But you can’t base a relationship just on finances or looks.

    Let’s take a look a familiar scenario in our society: Boy meets girl. Boy marries girl. Boy and girl have 2.5 kids. Girl is housewife. Girl spends boy’s money. Girl does not maintain looks. Girl nags boy. Girl does not have sex often with boy. Boy gets fed up and divorces girl. Girl gets half of all of boy’s assets. Many men tell me that they are sick and tired of this and they would rather have a young, good looking sugar baby as opposed to get married again and having to go through all of this. They want a “wife like” relationship without the expense of a messy divorce. They feel that a sugar daddy relationship takes the deception out of the equation.

    I am a self proclaimed sugar baby and I don’t see anything wrong with having a relationship with a man that likes to spoil and financially support a woman. Many women and men have read my book on this subject or received my advice on this lifestyle and other dating and relationship issues. The Craigslist poster only emphasized her good looks. You have to have chemistry with a man and not just have your hand out for an American Express Card and diamonds, if you want a long term dating relationship or marriage. Men with money can meet a million pretty women a minute. Brains mixed with beauty are the best ways to attract a man with money. A good education, savvy business sense, being well read, cultured, having life accomplishments, etc. are all things that men with money admire.

    The pendulum definitely swings the other way when it comes to relationships just being based on one thing. There are men that want a woman to be young, have big boobs, a nice ass, and provide hot sex upon demand, without wanting any emotional attachments whatsoever. Recently I counseled a couple where the husband has a prenup where the wife is required to maintain a size 6, get plastic surgery as needed to alleviate excessive wrinkles, and she is to provide “enthusiastic” sex ( not perfunctory, in his own words) 3-4 times a week or he will divorce her. He feels that all she has to do is “work” for him to keep herself together. There is no consideration for her feelings. She was okay with this but now is having second thoughts. I have told them both that this is doomed for failure since as soon as she gets sick or injured he will leave.

    What works best if people can meet somewhere in the middle and not be so extreme in what they require.

    Leidra, author of Sugar Daddy 101

  103. John D says:

    Leidra, your logic is flawed. You say that ‘A good education, savvy business sense, being well read, cultured, having life accomplishments, etc’ will attract a man with money, but if you were to have all of the above assets, why would you need a man’s money? You should more than likely have your own, with a record such as that.

    Tom Leykis had this on his show last week. Terrific.

  104. Leidra says:

    No John, what I say is not flawed, this is the opinion that men with money tell me. Mind you, a woman doesn’t have to have all of these attributes. The point was to highlight some the things that make a woman well rounded eneough to attract a man of means. Sometimes some men are willing to take a woman that has potential and mentor her, helping her to reach that point of self suffiency.

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  106. Stephanie from NE says:

    I haven’t read all the responses to this posting (got to #40), but I would like to comment to Jack from #39. It is very easy to type a word that is very similar to the one you are trying to type and it is no reflection on a person’s intelligence. If you are going to correct someone (Jellybean #37 – an excerpt is below), why not correct the “too fat, to ugly, to poor”, part of her sentence? Is an obvious typo acceptable? Perhaps you did not see it?

    She is trying to say that she is NOT like this person and that perhaps she offers above average intelligence. She is not saying she is “spectacularly intelligent” – being at the 51st percentile is “above average”. What does your jab offer here? What does it show about you?

    Where it concerns the original post, this person is a sociopath. Where it concerns the reply, it is humorous and makes some good points but at the same time, it is somewhat mean. Many would say that she got what she deserved, I disagree. It was not kind and people who are that flawed need kindness from the rest of the world, who are also flawed, but less so, or in other areas.

    It may be a sociological study on how people respond to statements that are clearly way off the norms of aacceptable behavior.

    Lastly, I apologize for appearing sanctimonious, but as someone who has been judged and found lacking many times in her life, I have learned that frequently those who judge don’t realize how harsh they appear.

    about JellyBean wrote:
    “I have a pension for going hog wild when it comes to charities!”

    JellyBean, you say you have “above average intelligence” and went to law school yet you don’t know the difference between “pension” and “penchant”?

  107. Oshun says:

    I laughed my little tail off reading this, but I have to say- I find myself feeling for both these people, and I understand how both sides of the equation evolve in society. It’s heartbreaking. So many women feel this desperate and insecure, and so many men are so focused on money that they end up lost in a world of gold diggers and false friends. It seems like we’ve set ourselves up in this society to misunderstand each other and forget what love for other human beings AND ourselves once was. Geez, I really shouldn’t be posting comments to strangers on a bailey’s coffee buzz.. I’ll stop before I go too far..

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  109. New Spin says:

    Has anyone given any thought to whether “articulate, classy girl” not to mention “spectacularly beautiful” was actually a disillusioned male who had too much time on his hands and wanted to see what kind of buzz his little joke would generate?

  110. Blah651 says:

    “JellyBean, you say you have “above average intelligence” and went to law school yet you don’t know the difference between “pension” and “penchant”? ”

    since when does spelling relate to intelligence? i have a phd in math and can’t spell, same thing goes for lawschool, doesn’t relate to intelligence ;)

  111. TooLateforMe says:

    Fairy Tales can come true. It doesn’t mean they will.

    I was a beautiful intelligent and sincere woman who, at the age of 27, married a 22 year old man. He was handsome, bright and hard working. He never earned more than 27K until he was in his mid 30’s. I always worked hard to co-support our family and took a backseat to help fulfill his ambitions and dreams.

    When we finally managed to earn more than 300K, in a family business we started and both worked hard to maintain, I was in my late forties. While I thought he loved me, all during the 24 years we were married, I somehow got that wrong.. One day, to my surprise and to the shock of all who knew us, he left me. It was only after spending many thousands of dollars, on various detectives, was I able to learn the truth. For 6 months, before we opened for business, he was having sex in his office with the stupid but good looking secretary who was 15 yrs younger than me.

    We divorced. Our family business failed. Two of our young adult children became involved in drugs. A year later, we were all broke and the gold digger was chasing other men. Everything bad that cold happen, did. We lost everything.

    Today, 7 years later, neither us nor our children, have come close to doing as well financially, or emotionally, as we did when we were a family.

    Moral of the story? Maybe women, while young and attractive, should seek men with whom they will forever be the younger woman. I think if I had done so my life would have been spent with a man who would have valued me more. Following my heart simply did not work out. It took 30 years for me to learn the lesson which came too late.

  112. Tomato says:

    I am a 40-something woman who was extremely good-looking in my prime. Let me say this – earn your own way.

    Earn your own way. I have been able to love men for who they are because I haven’t equated making “a living” with making out. As long as those two are linked, you are basically, a whore.

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  114. Ms. Laughing so hard!! says:

    hilarous! i love it! She doesn’t have a clue of …. well i guess not anything! if she can’t meet the type of man she is looking for, it’s because she isn’t in his class of social circles!! that’s something she may want to work on!!Ha Ha Ha I love this! this is great literature and highly entertaining! Thanks!

  115. Ms. Laughing so hard!! says:

    hilarous! i love it! She doesn't have a clue of …. well i guess not anything! if she can't meet the type of man she is looking for, it's because she isn't in his class of social circles!! that's something she may want to work on!!Ha Ha Ha I love this! this is great literature and highly entertaining! Thanks!

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  119. Anonymous says:

    This is really classic…

    It seems like the person answered knows a lot about “women”…

    I learned about women from two ways.. Directly from a women… and from an experienced male..

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    @matelot: Well, you are here and in order to know this post qualifies as ‘this kind’ you had to read it. Additionally, although your comment does not respond directly to the post, it does respond regarding the post. Therefore, you, matelot, are also a fucking moron. Let me add an idiot, as well.

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  132. anon says:

    hmm go kill yourself. probably the best solution. ur not going to get these guys with ur attitude and ur probably “beautiful inside” *fugly*

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  135. fphaim says:

    what about spirit attraction, emotion, with your alter ego? money is not enouth… none beauty… God bless you because you said the truth…

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    T’es nulle ma pauvre fille, remets toi en question et trouve les vraies valeurs de la vie et là tu seras heureuse.

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  139. Craptor says:

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  141. Jack says:

    Gold digging egostatistical parasitic materialistic self conscious brat, if you want to make some money make it your self pampered little shit, or what to lazy to go to college get a job and be successful or are going to leach of of some old rich dude in return for some Fuck, looks won’t get you as far as want it to babe there are a little thing called skills that valued above being(spectacularly beautiful) so get off your ass and work little shit

  142. saintepha says:

    this girl clearly does not lack personality, character or integrity. she’s obviously too good for guys that only make $250,000. someone help her please! out of the goodness of your heart!

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  145. Mortongould43 says:

    icall bullshit..she’s in some kind of denial..like 15 pounds overweight and won’t acknowledge it..plus  she’s vapid and boring..who’d want her? she judges everyone by how physically appealing ..those plain janes could have a shitload of family money or  be GREAT chicks..what an asshole.

  146. Shallowkake says:

    I’d fuck this bitch (rough), blow it all over her spectacularly beautiful face, throw down a couple of hundreds for her time and walk the fuck out of the room.

  147. S042983 says:

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  148. Jannyworld says:

     

    American International Television President/CEO Paul Rivera-Zangrillo’s reply to a chinese girl’s craigslist post‏

    The Craigslist Ads:

    anyone wanna travel with me – 25

    Date: 2012-05-09, 2:58PM CST
    Reply to: dwcrd-3004833106@pers.craigslist.org
    i wanna travel to anyplace that i can, i am not rich at all, i am just a graduate .

    The Answers:

    Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 17:44:08 -0700
    From: apzpaulie@yahoo.com
    Subject: Re: travel
    To: jannyworld@hotmail.com

    My email was hacked and someone emailed this to you. I never sent you
    any email. I don’t even know who you are. This was sent to me from
    yahoo. .Your account was accessed from a device we did not recognize
    . If you did not access your account, please view your sign-in
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    Paul Rivera-Zangrillo
    President/CEO
    American International Television
    Three Geezers Movie Productions

    From: hadfdfd
    To: paul
    Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:54 PM
    Subject: RE: travel

    oh sory.u must be a european or an asian maybe or some wierd loser.i will post ur email online

    Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 14:03:46 -0700
    From: apzpaulie@yahoo.com
    Subject: Re: travel
    To: jannyworld@hotmail.com

    You look like a man.

    From: jannyworld@hotmail.com
    To: apzpaulie@yahoo.com
    Subject: RE: travel
    Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 15:29:51 +0000

    ru white? Ur a CEO,y do u look on craigslist?

    From: jannyworld@hotmail.com
    To: apzpaulie@yahoo.com
    Subject: RE: travel
    Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 12:08:14 +0000

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    AITV President/CEO Paul
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    here is my pic .i wanna travel to usa the most, then the atlantic
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    Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 02:00:57 -0700
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    Subject: travel
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    Paul Rivera-Zangrillo
    President/CEO
    American International Television
    Three Geezers Movie Productions

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    If this email is a scam or spam please flag it now:
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  149. Jarus says:

    Worthless bitch deserves to die. I am so sick and tired of superficial whores like this who think they can get a free pass in life just because of their looks. Women have too much freedom, we should go back to arranged marriages because most women nowadays are too stupid to decide who they should marry.

  150. Drea says:

    my experience: i’m a woman and i committed myself to a man because of love AND potential. my partner came from a poor family who had absolutely no money and he himself at that time (just starting his job) had zero money to his name. but aside from the good qualities in him that i love – kindness, loving, caring, respect, etc., i knew that he had great potential and was a very responsible and hardworking man. we are now together 5+ years and though we are not yet a millionaire, we are getting there! i believe you can have both – love and financial success, if both of you dream to and most importantly, STRIVE for, together as a couple. supporting and loving each other and establishing an interdependent relationship where both grows to a positive direction – i think that’s a good formula for success in any kind of partnership. for me, any responsible man would want to support his wife and kids (if any), and strive for a fruitful life, and having a great wife to love him and share life with, success would naturally follow suit. so Ms. Golddigger here needs to learn how a real, happy & successful partnership really works. same goes to lazy men who have no balls to live up to the challenge and strive for a greater life, either for themselves or for their families. my cousin’s husband is like that. my cousin (the wife) dreams of being a housewife and take charge of the household but the husband refuses for the selfish reason that if he has to work (work as in for a company), the wife has to work too outside the home and contribute income. and he expects that the wife does house chores too like cooking, cleaning, laundry, etc. what a brat.

  151. mfukar says:

    Peanutbutter, you met an asshole. Not all “Wall St. guys” are assholes, and neither are all men. Best of luck.

  152. Tait Chirenje says:

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